Comments on: How MAFIAA killed itself and why Goth is undead

By: Jan Hancic

Jan Hancic — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:33:46 +0000

That’s true, modern metal kinda sux more or the less.
But still … there are still some bands from the golden age that rock just as hard as they did.
I’m just wating for Metallica to get their shit together (last album is a step in the right direction).

And please … don’t even mention nickelback and metal (or rock for that matter) on the same page

By: swizec

swizec — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:48:06 +0000

Not all metal is dull, 1980′s metal is, as a rule, pretty awesome. But compared to modern metal that metal is pretty much just rock. It’s no more “metal” than, say, Nickelback or Marilyn Manson and similar.

Actually all that “we need to be metal” crap is what turned me away from metal. They try so hard to be hardcore that they pack their music with EVERYTHING and there’s so much that it all becomes just a drone and even though the underlying rhytm is quick and fast and full, the overall melody becomes quite mellow and boring. Think of it like two interacting sine waves going in the same direction. Same pulsing effect.

As for good goth music, I don’t really know since it’s all so vastly different and all the stereotypical goth bands never identified themselves as goth, but as rock. And those who identified themselves as goth were mostly posers trying to cash in on a meme.

Of those I’ve listened to personally I’d have to suggest Cruxshadows (nearly synth pop), Bauhaus (can be quite boring if you’re not in the mood), Sisters of Mercy (also, can be boring), Nick Cave, Siouxsie, Voltaire (very awesome and whimsical)

But really, the goth culture is vast and includes everything from industrial to rock and dark cabaret. There isn’t even a common theme anymore I don’t think.

By: Jan Hancic

Jan Hancic — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:36:28 +0000

Not the main point of your post but … metal is dull? Care to elaborate please? I don’t know what you ware listening when you came to that conclusion but I find metal THE music.
Or to put my words into something more solid: what is dull about Judas Priest’s Painkiller ? I find myself banging my head wherever I am when that (or something of that kind) comes cracking out of the speakers.

ps: I’d love to if you’d suggest some great goth bands as I’ve been meaning to check that shit out. Not that I plan on wearing spikes and paint my face white (being a geek it’s already white enough)

By: Urban

Urban — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:51:02 +0000

Well, it’s true what you’re saying, it was all about album until MTV fucked everything up.

Still, I adore singles, not for the ‘main’ song, which appears on the radio, but for B-sides, which are often even better songs, but artist was forced to get them off because of stupid record labels.

By: Swizec

Swizec — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:52:48 +0000

Yes they were around for a long time. Probably as far back as the 50′s. But back then they were promotion for the album, now they’re the main product.

THAT’s what’s changed.

A long time ago, and some artists even recently, an album was a single work of art. It had a beginning and an end, a flow, a story. Now it’s a collection of singles.

By: -1-

-1- — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:50:24 +0000

Erm, Swizec, dearie. The singles have been around for many, many years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_%28music%29

I do agree that albums are underapreciated these days, though.